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so in? balance... ...
By: IrishGary1. on 11 Nov 11, 02:19:26
so in? balance...insane

theres a vid? of ...
By: Xdawgs1118. on 24 Sep 11, 19:04:45
theres a vid? of him shanking

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Worst quality? ever,
By: stratocaster1986able. on 29 Aug 11, 19:12:10
Worst quality? ever,

He hit it so hard ...
By: Corncrops. on 03 Aug 11, 04:01:18
He hit it so hard it vaporized? into smoke.

It is his mind that ...
By: Corncrops. on 23 Jul 11, 22:12:53
It is his mind that is fucked not his game. He has lost all confidence? after his personal life meltdown in 09.

shame he ever went ...
By: silowhore. on 20 Jul 11, 17:27:55
shame he ever went anywhere near harmon, maybe if he'd stayed away from silly instructors spewing their ridiculous mechanics and positions bullshit he'd? still be winning

2 years later :)?
By: brettisrock. on 31 May 11, 15:21:24
2 years later :)?

Now there? is.
By: OnePlaneSpartan329. on 20 May 11, 04:56:46
Now there? is.

What happened to ...
By: tadaa11. on 25 Apr 11, 05:06:43
What happened to simplicity? Working on his setup and swinging through.?

Courses are also ...
By: aieljose. on 04 Apr 11, 22:00:55
Courses are also alot tougher now than they were in the early 2000's. Tiger shot 18 under in the 1997 master also about 15 under at pebble beach early in his career. You will never see rounds that low on those courses any more because they are much tougher now. It's? only natural then that he will have more misses.

Your're a knob. ?
By: bobbypaulb. on 06 Feb 11, 11:56:05
Your're a knob. ?

Wow, even i'm ...
By: Corncrops. on 16 Jan 11, 23:42:48
Wow, even i'm better then that?

Go watch tiger ...
By: Corncrops. on 16 Jan 11, 23:40:56
Go watch tiger woods shank video?

"and this ball is ...
By: qbb01. on 15 Jan 11, 02:48:47
"and this ball is RIGHT at this nob? RIGHT at the RIGHT front RIGHT there landed it RIGHT on it chased it RIGHT up on the green" niiiiiiiiice

i think it is butch ...
By: michellekwan483. on 27 Sep 10, 20:39:32
i think it is butch harmon? talking

That? was smoked...
By: psg8802. on 03 Aug 10, 15:06:06
That? was smoked...

St.? Andrews
By: jtjorger. on 09 Jul 10, 21:12:35
St.? Andrews

st. Andrews?
By: zhihong110. on 13 Jun 10, 05:21:06
st. Andrews?

Butch Harmon talkn ...
By: brettisrock. on 23 May 10, 08:47:01
Butch Harmon talkn here...?

what ever position ...
By: 1986sjp. on 22 May 10, 21:51:39
what ever position makes u hit good and? accurate

pebble beach??
By: hubertus35. on 14 Apr 10, 14:06:03
pebble beach??

hi i dont know much ...
By: SenorBartos. on 13 Apr 10, 15:44:06
hi i dont know much about golf i only played some minigolf in my past but is it so important to have the right? position? or does every different golf player has a diffirent position and style?

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Ok, I was wrong. ...
By: robertschelly. on 20 Apr 12, 04:05:17
Ok, I was wrong. That was a rather ignorant comment I made. Snead was a great player, one of my favorites. I saw play twice - Ed McMahon Open 1979. He shot 67 that day, his age; the next day (after the rain delay) he shot 66. Later that summer he made the cut in the PGA held at Oakland Hills in Michigan. Saw shoot paired? with Jerry Pate; they had a skin game going (during the tournament).

...It's really easy ...
By: emncaity. on 19 Apr 12, 08:03:33
...It's really easy, when you're a great player trying to put it all? together in language, to end up talking about something that just happens (ideally) as if it were something you have to try to do. On the other hand, a guy like this amateur (in the video) obviously _isn't_ releasing the hands, so maybe doing it deliberately until he gets the feel of it, until it becomes second nature, is the right thing in this instructional situation.

Hmm...well, you ...
By: emncaity. on 19 Apr 12, 07:59:56
Hmm...well, you have to think about how it is that great players come to articulate their ideas about the swing. To one person it's "letting physics release the club passively"; to another, it's feeling the hands rip through impact; another may wish he had three right hands to release through the ball; to another, it feels like? the intentional use of the hands; but in fact all may be doing exactly, or fundamentally, the same thing.

So how did he teach ...
By: emncaity. on 19 Apr 12, 07:57:37
So how did he teach all those? people face-to-face who swore he was a great teacher?

you really think ...
By: dschultz6072. on 27 Jan 12, 01:36:11
you really think he? had no idea how to hit a golf ball, huh?

Don't hold your ...
By: robertschelly. on 11 Dec 11, 18:52:14
Don't hold your breath waiting for secrets. Snead was a doer, not a teacher. 'Feel oily' .? . . well that's fine if you are a one-in-100 million prodigy like Sam was. His instruction books were ghostwritten. He just went & did it.

This seems awful ...
By: cockywatchman1976. on 21 Nov 11, 09:34:01
This seems awful advice to all but a rank beginner. Let physics release the club-once you start using active hands, its so hard? to time. Ive used both methods and by far the easiest is to let physics release the club.

The hands are used ...
By: sifurick123. on 25 Sep 11, 13:12:02
The hands are used in many sports. The correct action is based on the individual players? timing .It not going to matter if you are a leg player, body player or hands player. Timing off . That why shots go haywire. If SAM said he snap his hands why won't i believe him . The term he uses is a question of semantic.Don't sweat it.

It depends on the ...
By: emncaity. on 05 Aug 11, 06:47:32
It depends on the player. Some people do it naturally as force is transmitted through the body and out to the clubhead, some don't. Some have to learn to use their hands to create speed. Certainly Snead himself thought so, as he says here and elsewhere.?

The "snap" at the ...
By: TheNYgolfer. on 04 Aug 11, 03:37:42
The "snap" at the bottom of the swing,if generated by the hands,will lead to major inconsistencies.On the other if the "snap" is allowed to happen? automatically,with no conscious input from the hands,golf becomes manageable.This is how Grout taught Nicklaus.This is done by utilizing the big muscles to transfer energy to the arms which then transfer the energy to the club (kinematic sequence).The hands merely hold on to the club VERY LIGHTLY.Soft hands allow the "snap" to happen automatically.

its not called a ...
By: FullTimeHypocrite. on 14 Jul 11, 21:59:27
its not called a snap sam, its called proper release? ;)

one thing i forgot ...
By: fradaja. on 06 Jun 11, 12:37:12
one thing i forgot to mention is that snead "does" use his body and legs to generate power! he's so natural he thinks it's his hands, yes you can generate more power and extra clubhead speed through? lag,but at a price,accuracy! the straightest hitters have fairly passive hands,kite for instance,compared to seve, you need to connect your body to the clubhead to transfer the momentum created by your body and legs at impact it's physics mass x velocity = momentum,you need both

I've seen the ...
By: emncaity. on 01 Jun 11, 06:44:47
I've seen the explanations for NG, and I just don't think the advantage of making one plane with the arms and club outweighs the tension and artificiality of it. For some, it works really well. But IMHO, the hands and arms are built in a way that makes the conventional hold the best balance of advantages and disadvantages. OTOH, I'd never tell anybody not? to try something they think might be a breakthrough for them, especially when it's been proven by at least some good players.

As for Moe Norman, ...
By: emncaity. on 01 Jun 11, 06:42:44
As for Moe Norman, well...it's hard to argue with success so great that top-level tour pros would say this guy was the most consistent striker they ever saw, at least as good as Hogan, according to some. ? However, theoretically, I'm not so convinced that the wrists are that much of a nightmare, except to the extent that you can make the movement of any body "part" (because "part" is just an idea we use for convenience anyway) a nightmare if you overthink it enough.

Keep in mind when ...
By: emncaity. on 01 Jun 11, 06:36:57
Keep in mind when you're considering the question, though, that Snead was one of the greatest teachers ever--and also that Hogan's approach was nowhere near as mechanical as his reputation. It was what? later teachers did with Hogan's ideas that gives Hogan much of his reputation (look at how relatively short a book Five Lessons is, for instance).

Actually, I think ...
By: emncaity. on 01 Jun 11, 06:35:43
Actually, I think that's a very valid and very interesting (not to mention perpetually? unsolved) question. One view would say that the guy who is possibly the greatest natural player in the history of golf finds the swing so simple that whatever he says isn't so useful for the average player, while Hogan's "assembly of parts" approach will work. The opposite view would say that Snead is exactly the guy you want to listen to, because you want your swing to be that complication-free.

who do you think ...
By: fradaja. on 21 May 11, 15:01:15
who do you think knows most hogan or snead? one did it naturally,the other one had to de construct his swing,and learn the hard way,through hours of? practice, wrist in golf are a nightmare and lead to inconsistency,moe norman new this which is why he had more hole in ones than anyone.

Ok dsshultz, I ...
By: canibalcorpse73. on 19 May 11, 11:54:06
Ok dsshultz, I challenge you to hit the ball? past 200 yards without lag, lag is a major component of power, shoulders and legs are too, but will go nowhere without lag.

thanks for stating ...
By: fradaja. on 12 May 11, 22:41:47
thanks for stating the obvious,but the facts remain,there isn't the 10% the power in the arms,compared to the back legs and shoulders combined,sam snead used these without even realising it obviously,he thought he generated his power through his? arms,not so,the majority of the power in golf is generated through the aforementioned, the arms are just the link and control mechanism.

power and ...
By: dschultz6072. on 12 May 11, 17:07:43
power and consistency come from everything working together. timing and rhythm. golf has always revolved around these aspects, much the same as every ball sport. you couldn't make a basket, throw a strike, kick a goal, or complete a pass without timing and rhythm. there are no secrets in golf, just like there are no secrets in basketball, baseball, football, etc. some days it comes easier than others.? that's the nature of every athletic activity.

there is hardly any ...
By: fradaja. on 12 May 11, 16:40:02
there is hardly any power in your arms they just complicate things, the power is in your body and legs if you want (consistent)? distance use your body legs and hips,a good turn is where it's at.

wow this is proof ...
By: fradaja. on 12 May 11, 16:34:23
wow this is proof how many early pro's didn't have a clue how they hit the ball themselves,they just stood up and hit it, everyone knows the majority of the power is in the big muscles in the back and legs,the key is to transfer that weight into the clubhead at impact,which is? where the timing kicks in! sport always needs science!

Yes. as I wrote: ...
By: petereuropa. on 07 May 11, 10:05:19
Yes. as I wrote: I'm 61 now - and Sam inspire me so much with his? tip.

Toski, Flick, and ...
By: emncaity. on 06 May 11, 18:04:14
Toski, Flick, and Love II had the right idea: The further you get from your hands, the only part of the body that contacts the club, the more your parts move in reaction and the less they should be trying to "create" anything. Your torso should move to respond to the swinging motion or the intent to swing arms, hands, and club. The thing that Snead did so beautifully was to stay completely in tune with how the club wanted to move, through the sensitivity in hands and? forearms.

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You are correct. ...
By: hennybogan007. on 31 Dec 11, 23:57:12
You are correct. Read "Mr. Hogan, The man I knew". First hand evidence that there was no actual "secret". (time magazine wanted? Mr. Hogan to come up with a magical "secret" move to sell more copies. So Mr. Hogan gave the cupped left wrist move that helped correct HIS tendency to hook.) Don't you think his secret would have been found by now? by video analysis or by someone falling on it by chance.

interested to know ...
By: hennybogan007. on 31 Dec 11, 23:47:16
interested to know if this was one continuous swing or clips? of two swings combined to make one? the sprinkler in the background does not match up with the frames. either way great footage. thanks for sharing

The best striker of ...
By: TheXELURST. on 01 Dec 11, 23:27:04
The best striker of a golf ball ever,he made it his job to look after Valerie his wife to look after her and he did ,THE HAWK! The best ever the ultimate pro, there is not a golfer alive who ever owned their swing like Mr Hogan! 1953 won all of them without a doubt the best EVER? and please a bit of respect the man is a LEGEND we will never see the like again!!!

Awesome vid. I hope ...
By: EagleEyeGolfer. on 23 Nov 11, 23:08:06
Awesome vid. I hope you don't? mind if I use it on my new channel? thx!!

I can't believe you ...
By: stevepising. on 20 Oct 11, 15:52:22
I can't believe you can dig a swing that good out of the? dirt. Even with the most assiduous, diligent and intelligent practice, it must require a huge, huge slab of talent. A continental plate sized slab of talent in fact.

The best swing ever ...
By: paseodelnardo25. on 10 Oct 11, 14:56:45
The best swing ever. Thank you for posting? this wonderful footage of Mr. Hogan.

He swung so fast he ...
By: bunkerputt. on 09 Sep 11, 18:56:07
He swung so fast he actually went back? in time for a few frames.

I have never nor ...
By: bunkerputt. on 09 Sep 11, 18:54:38
I have never nor will I ever be able to? turn my wrists down that much. That's really impressive.

Really you are ...
By: Cervicconstruction. on 23 Aug 11, 15:21:02
Really you are debateing where that ball may have gone.Really? here I have a suggestion pull the pin and hold it close.

Actually, you are ...
By: holyfuckareyoustupid. on 20 Aug 11, 11:27:19
Actually, you are full of crap! You have no way of knowing the path of that club through impact. You are viewing the swing from the wrong plane. You'd need to behind the ball or in front of it to see the path of the club. Therefore, you have? no way of knowing where that ball ended up. The only thing we know for sure is - I was making a joke - and you are full of crap.

Actually, we do ...
By: jeffy10028. on 08 Jul 11, 19:03:37
Actually, we do know it is a great swing. Look at the the clubface position in the last frame before impact: dead square. Hogan's bowed left wrist position through impact was his real? secret.

You are just ...
By: emncaity. on 22 Apr 11, 07:52:03
You are just disturbed and/or tortured enough to be a golfer. It's 2:51 a.m. where I am, when I'm posting this. I'll bet you're awake too. ;-)?

Because these are ...
By: emncaity. on 22 Apr 11, 07:51:25
Because these are still shots put together to give the illusion of motion, so? you get a corresponding illusion of camera movement because of the slight imprecision in aligning and matching up every detail of each still shot with all the others.

MIKE AUSTIN WAS THE ...
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Watch his right hip ...
By: justgolf555. on 20 Feb 11, 03:44:52
Watch his right hip, which the hip is located? toward your butt more then the front of the waist, at the top of the back swing. It moves toward the target around the back side. It doesn't turn around the front side of the spine.

Watch how Mr. Hogan ...
By: flogderf. on 04 Jan 11, 21:16:18
Watch how Mr. Hogan changes his left wrist in the downswing from a "cupped", open position to a "bowed", closed position at and through impact. SO much that one can learn from this swing...He shows his strength and power here...VERY GOOD slow motion for capturing the Hogan movement in a swing after his greatest year. I think that the camera? angle is not good enough to see all we need to see but it's good enough...

why is the camera? ...
By: tongzilla. on 12 Dec 10, 05:41:24
why is the camera? moving?

Actually, we have ...
By: holyfuckareyoustupid. on 19 Nov 10, 10:47:05
Actually, we have no idea where that ball even ended up. Just saying. We think that was a great swing but we don't know. Hogan could of hit that one hard left and hit some old lady in the head for all we? know. We think we're seeing a swing that's perfection, but in reality we might have an elderly lady down and blood pumping all over the place. So all I'm saying is, should we be asking "was that the greatest swing of all time" or " for the love of God, what's taking that ambulance so long?"

thanks u sir ?
By: MegaSathit. on 15 Oct 10, 15:39:03
thanks u sir ?

Remarkably fluid ...
By: TheVideoStank. on 14 Oct 10, 18:13:53
Remarkably fluid and? powerful.

Tom Bertrand ...
By: plebian44. on 10 Oct 10, 14:20:57
Tom Bertrand explained how Hogan used his elbows to control the release of the clubface through impact and as contrary as it seems against most golf swing doctrine, it's worked wonders for me, and I was already? an 11 handicap playing for 26 years. Where as most all of our favorite pro's would have 'flipped' the clubface through impact to some degree or other, look at the image with the clubhead just past impact. The clubhead is held far more square than most anyone else.

one of the best ...
By: roryhie. on 28 Sep 10, 10:04:45
one of the best swing ever!?

This's my? first ...
By: MegaSathit. on 18 Sep 10, 15:14:32
This's my? first time to see Mr. Hogan's left elbow collapsed on follow-through. Is this move make him got The Open Jug?

Interesting. Sorry ...
By: davidgee100. on 18 Sep 10, 02:06:40
Interesting. Sorry about? your back. I'm thinking that perhaps Hogan had remembered Harvey Penich having broken his back with a golf car accident years ago. Interesting.

Absolutely.?
By: davidgee100. on 18 Sep 10, 02:03:08
Absolutely.?

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@f0cusen do u ...
By: siboy109. on 13 Nov 11, 06:10:40
@f0cusen do u comment on every single golf video??? It's ridiculous do? u have a life???

and hes still ...
By: TXRANGER6. on 06 Oct 11, 01:34:11
and hes still better than you?

Golf is? so damn ...
By: pudgylumpkins. on 10 Sep 11, 17:23:44
Golf is? so damn technical, I just swing the club.

It's not? high it's ...
By: f0cusen. on 05 Aug 11, 17:26:39
It's not? high it's on the shaftplane mickelson's right forearm is high but not tigers.

probably trying to ...
By: davesallay. on 27 Jul 11, 18:54:38
probably trying to get 1,000,000 + views for? in ingenius idea of showing tiger woods changing his hitting style only slightly.

this is perfect, he ...
By: BILLUPS811. on 14 Jun 11, 00:54:36
this is perfect, he s right where he needs to be the right forearm is on? top, theres no way he s getting stuck from this position

He is drawing the ...
By: GrandmasterN. on 03 Mar 11, 18:03:45
He is drawing the shot... if you see him practising that is what you will see... look at his? followthrough... much more aroung than normal... thats a draw for tiger.... nothing wrong here!!!!

Look at the camera ...
By: williamwilson07. on 14 Jan 11, 01:19:18
Look at the camera angle... it's nowhere near down the line... therefore you can expect is right forarm to be high at impact... obviously a poor analysis and waste of criticism... and jack was playing with a golf ball that would? curve much easier than the golf balls today..... most players shape the ball playing either pull cuts or push draws.... which prevents the ball from missing on the short side. Do your homework next time.

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By: otuleja. on 12 Nov 10, 17:58:06
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What I'm looking at ...
By: emncaity. on 10 Oct 10, 23:52:22
What I'm looking at is the universal--and I mean universal--characteristic of the great swinger to have the trailing forearm under the plane of the lead forearm from halfway down until just before impact, and the shoulders closed during this time too, with the lower body opening. I just don't see any consistent exceptions to this. Even Nicklaus, when he revamped? in '79-'80, cultivated that feeling deliberately and said it was the best ballstriking of his life--that's JACK NICKLAUS'S life.

what the fuck are ...
By: Nazz123ran. on 30 Sep 10, 13:30:46
what the fuck are we? looking at

The on plane ...
By: BenJogan. on 14 Sep 10, 20:53:22
The on plane forearm is a? very important geometrical contribution for the golf physics. It can offer an on plane force through impact, but when it's off plane, the forces are going in the wrong direction, so (in order to make a good shot) you mustn't use that power source. Tiger is a true centrifugal force swinger. In this shot he had a completely passive right arm and he only used the centrifugal pull of the left side. Geometry in this case is not in his favour, but he is Tiger...

i think he is? ...
By: nicker6890. on 07 Sep 10, 17:25:25
i think he is? doing something right when all you do is sit around and look for flaws in a mans swing that yours will never look anything like and you will never be as good as!

:01 (address) and : ...
By: 416punk. on 31 Aug 10, 14:18:59
:01 (address) and :10 (impact) his positioning? is almost identical...and on plane. What exactly are you getting at here?

Some pretty funny ...
By: moreneck1. on 20 May 10, 14:47:10
Some pretty funny comments here. If you don't know anything about the golf swing please make a comment they are? hilarious. As for the magic right forearm, I think it has merit but isn't a fundamental, or magic.

uhhh.? no
By: MattJones1418. on 23 Feb 10, 19:06:47
uhhh.? no

What u? 28 ...
By: armanijeans4. on 23 Feb 10, 02:53:31
What u? 28 handicappers commenting for.....embarassing!!!!!!, until u fix ur slices and duffs leave the commentry from the people who have won majors before alone.

wait so no matter ...
By: helenathena. on 04 Feb 10, 02:30:29
wait so no matter what if your under your plane with a back swing that points at your target at the top and you come down under your plane with a squared club face will? it go straight? it will only go crazy if you go over your swing?

high? cut??
By: webbtreble99. on 27 Jan 10, 13:48:58
high? cut??

doesnt matter, as ...
By: ttr15. on 25 Jan 10, 02:45:44
doesnt matter, as long as it? repeating everytime!

You know nothing ...
By: 12Lisi. on 21 Dec 09, 07:28:08
You know nothing about? the golf swing guy.

who ever made this ...
By: brh5934. on 21 Nov 09, 08:18:38
who ever made this video, are you critiquing tiger's swing or just making an observation. Tiger? is in a beautiful position and I dont get why the people who would also agree with my statement are getting so many negative thumbs down ratings on their comments.

your an absolute ...
By: andreasadler91. on 19 Oct 09, 20:14:00
your an absolute nut job! your forearms are supposed to be like that, unless you want to be heel deep. look at any golfers in the world. The most stupid analysis that I have ever? seen

By doing what he is ...
By: nuttersandy. on 17 Oct 09, 04:38:31
By doing what he is doing, you get more compression on the ball, which causes more spin. On this hole almost evrey player trieds to do the same thing, because you dont want that puppy to hit the green and roll of. You want it to hit and stick or if? anythign roll back.

thats an absolutely ...
By: mikekaz15. on 29 Sep 09, 02:09:32
thats an absolutely perfect position by tiger here. the goal is? to be able to see in between the arms and the body at impact.

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I beat Hogan in a ...
By: cockywatchman1976. on 17 May 11, 12:16:33
I beat Hogan in a skins game once. It was close though and he was quite good. I used? a swing called stack and tilt, so I was brilliant that day

What do you mean??
By: Hexznutznig. on 16 Apr 11, 06:09:24
What do you mean??

flat, heavy? irons ...
By: MrPhattyGeorge. on 25 Mar 11, 13:38:11
flat, heavy? irons with super stiff shafts= hogans fade, hit some blades and bend em' flat and plaster it with lead tape, swing it day and night, eventually your swing will change

If u want the real ...
By: gardner4718. on 01 Mar 11, 02:56:25
If u want the real hogan move (secret). Check out Geoff Jones Aka slicefixer. Hogan made a weight? shift. It's how he made his pivot.

VJ is? tha man!!!! ...
By: MrWBryan. on 14 Jun 10, 19:10:07
VJ is? tha man!!!! :)

Notice this and ...
By: secrettogolf. on 29 Mar 10, 05:33:10
Notice this and please? comment:Watch the transition from the extreme height of his backswing and the right arm going from 90 degrees to 45=dropping the forearm,still at the top.This put the club in the slot and gave his swing more lag at 45 degrees=a pure inside to out swing.The legs and hips are moving in perfect rythym with this move.The acr is wide then a smaller cirlce is formed but the left arm retains it's length/extension.

Think about this... ...
By: hogansking. on 11 Feb 10, 23:16:04
Think about this...Hogan never had a back, hip or knee issue (disregarding the accident of course). A motion that evolved into pure symmetry. I would love to? talk more in depth one day with V J about Hogan. I'm in the process of developing a pretty neat project for all golfers in which Hogan plays a major role. Listen carefully to this video folks. Interesting conversation that one day will be expanded upon.

The same applied ...
By: hogansking. on 11 Feb 10, 23:11:24
The same applied through the ball. He was able to turn aggressively with no compensations because his spine tilt and angle were maintained so perfectly during the rotation process of the back-swing, none were? needed. Through his amazing proprioception, he was able to respond to where there was the least amount of resistance and let his body take him where it wanted to. This cannot be taught.

If you think about ...
By: hogansking. on 11 Feb 10, 23:11:03
If you think about his so-called "secret" very profoundly based on what? Hogan said and said he felt, it was truly about calibrating the proper and full spine rotation throughout the course of his back-swing which created a tremendous feeling of torque to the ground with both feet. This is why he started with more pressure on the left side at address in order to create the torqued feel with both feet equally.

His lateral motion ...
By: hogansking. on 11 Feb 10, 23:03:18
His lateral motion was? initiated prior to the completion of the upper spine rotation and arm swing accompanying it. The lateral motion should truly be an involuntary motion and hence this why Hogan explained in "Five lessons" the downswing is initiated by the turning of the hips towards the target. FEEL vs. REALITY.

Think of it as a ...
By: hogansking. on 11 Feb 10, 22:54:10
Think of it as a falling to the left side (through-swing pivot) as the pressure of the turning of the body (spine) gave Hogan a feeling of both his feet corkscrewing into the ground with pressure on the back inside heel and front inside ball of the foot. Once the corkscrew could go no further (lower spine), then the lateral motion of the lower body? would occur while the upper spine finished it's rotation. IT IS WHY HOGAN LOOKED PRIMARILY ON HIS LEFT SIDE AT THE TOP OF THE BACK-SWING...

The real question ...
By: hogansking. on 11 Feb 10, 22:46:03
The real question is, did the circumstances of his accident help him arrive there or was he evolving to this regardless. There is mention here of Hogan's lateral lower spine (pelvis if you will) movement in initiating the downswing. This movement occurred not at the top of the back-swing but of course before he completed the full rotation of his upper spine (torso). The lateral motion was not? and never should contrived. It is a reaction to the coiling of the lower spine...

I agree with the ...
By: hogansking. on 11 Feb 10, 22:40:46
I agree with the comments here as Hogan's real secret was in how he pivoted which he truly figured out. Remember he mentioned that he evolved? to the point where he felt his entire swing through his feet. Think of it as every part of the body feeling a sense of neutrality and harmonious symmetry throughout the swing. The only way this can be accomplished is by perfecting weight distribution and pressure throughout. An acute an innate proprioception is required...

VJ is the real deal ...
By: weber506. on 24 Jan 10, 12:45:09
VJ is the real deal, he is years ahead of his peers. I know I am having? the pleasure of working with this young genius. Between his research and me practicing his drills we are on the verge of fixing 30 years of major faults.

I hope you have the ...
By: Hexznutznig. on 26 Aug 09, 05:00:09
I hope you have the rest of this? interview, great stuff thank you.

thanks KOC good job ...
By: roryhie. on 08 Jul 09, 19:54:21
thanks KOC good job! I'll be in HK by the end of the year in Asian? tour

I don't know how ...
By: Tigersmundo. on 17 Apr 09, 16:24:29
I don't know how you do it but always fresh and new never heard of? or seen this before!!!! Keep up the great work. JuNiOR

Hogan at young age
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Hogan at year around 1938-40 (not sure but close)

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This is Ben Hogan. ...
By: marcusdolby1. on 14 Nov 11, 15:44:49
This is Ben Hogan. Most people can identify him from his swing but he made radical changes to every aspect of his swing. this is before he made? his changes. Take a look at the clip of Moe Norman when he was young. Its here on youtube. You would never guess its him but it is.

i? mean seriously ...
By: dso1986. on 27 Aug 11, 07:36:23
i? mean seriously look at the legs working!!! looks almost exactly the same just not yet refined

also they say he ...
By: dso1986. on 27 Aug 11, 07:33:37
also they say he fought a hook early in his career and you can definately tell he is holding off making his finish not look the way we're used to it looking... anybody? agree?

i think this is ...
By: dso1986. on 27 Aug 11, 07:31:55
i think this is hogan!!! maybe? when he was WAY young.... there's a lot of similar movements.... byron nelson said that hogan had to work for every shot.... well with his GOOD swing it didn't seem too hard right? but when you see this swing, you can see where byron was coming from you know? i mean look at the set up take away and lower body movement... LOT of similarity just seems like he is still searching you kno???

Runyan is not a? ...
By: robertschelly. on 29 Apr 11, 21:02:25
Runyan is not a? bad guess. Runyan was a rather small guy and a very short hitter.

MIKE AUSTIN WAS THE ...
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Looks? like Popeye ...
By: 1tontomato. on 22 Mar 11, 20:35:41
Looks? like Popeye to me.

Not.?
By: asleeptube. on 04 Jan 11, 17:29:22
Not.?

Thats Obi? One ...
By: brianpaxtonPT. on 28 Dec 10, 02:45:57
Thats Obi? One Hogan..

your right thats ...
By: jwgjr07. on 20 Nov 10, 02:47:01
your right thats not Ben Hogan? its Paul Runyan

thats not Ben? ...
By: jwgjr07. on 20 Nov 10, 02:44:59
thats not Ben? Hogan the man in the film is Paul Runyan i know i was a caddy on the PGA

The set-up looks ...
By: fayette202. on 15 Nov 10, 17:15:01
The set-up looks similar, but the finish? is NOTHING like Hogan? KOC?what is your source for this footage?

You? should take ...
By: moreneck1. on 24 Oct 10, 23:06:44
You? should take this down. Hogan would be very upset that you said that was him!

Definitely not ...
By: kingly71. on 02 Apr 10, 15:19:21
Definitely not Hogan, Locke, or? Snead

I think it's Craig? ...
By: sdreg. on 15 Oct 09, 09:32:47
I think it's Craig? Wood

Agree, definitely ...
By: mcctee. on 13 Aug 09, 20:44:46
Agree, definitely not Ben Hogan. Maybe Bobby? Lock. Genuine old film stock.

looks? more like ...
By: bgcmembers. on 07 Aug 09, 10:56:43
looks? more like Ben Crane than Ben Hogan

That's Hen Bogan, ...
By: 1tontomato. on 03 Aug 09, 22:24:23
That's Hen Bogan, his? twin brother.

that? is not hogan
By: casiocoleman. on 06 May 09, 20:00:28
that? is not hogan

It's sam snead look ...
By: BOBBYJONES30. on 04 Apr 09, 22:07:18
It's sam snead look at the almost lazy follow through look him up? at Sam Snead Historic Shawnee

that is? not hogan. ...
By: hikorea00. on 12 Mar 09, 15:32:47
that is? not hogan. who are you kidding?

On plane, off plane, base plane line
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A straight plane line, plane shift, on-plane force going down plane, flat left wrist at impact, just can't "SEE" the lag pressure point....Just a try, don't take it too serious for the drawing. Right or wrong, no problem, its only a game, not a religion.

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Plane shift
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Double Plane shift for Sergio Garcia and how many shifts for Jim?

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Driver Slow Motion
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Back Up and IN; DOWN OUT FORWARD; UP Back and IN

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I didn't know the ...
By: Th3r00st3r2. on 15 May 12, 15:47:19
I didn't know the invisible? man played golf. What's his HCP?

@KOC stop motion is ...
By: imthesupervis0r. on 08 May 12, 12:05:14
@KOC stop motion is not the same as slow motion you ignoramus?

This video isn't ...
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This video isn't any more than 240 frames/sec, but it's played back at 1 frame? per second. I don't see the point.

Bad? slomo!!!
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Bad? slomo!!!

LUKE DONALD , WITH ...
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LUKE DONALD , WITH the Prazza golf ball finder 2012 playing in the snow . PERFECT ?

I was born and died ...
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I was born and died during this video?

I need a? new ...
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I need a? new computer, it can't keep up with the movie.

mother of slomotion ...
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mother of slomotion..?

5:35 WHAT THE FUCK ...
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5:35 WHAT THE FUCK IS? THAT?????? . . . . . . . .

WAY too slow..got? ...
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WAY too slow..got? bored fast

nice slideshow ?
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nice slideshow ?

thats pretty cool? ...
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thats pretty cool? actually...

i? dont like this ...
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i? dont like this video

Nice? slideshow!
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Nice? slideshow!

nice callaway? ad
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nice callaway? ad

??????????
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I think your camera ...
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I think your camera is? broken

7 minutes of my ...
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7 minutes of my life i will never? get back

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nice? powerpoint
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nice? powerpoint

this is? crap, and ...
By: allancridland. on 08 Aug 11, 07:09:00
this is? crap, and fake, the gold ball would still be on the club at 1:4bu8 if it was proper slow motion, im guessing it was a shit camera so had to do another angle using a driver but tapping it like a wedge or somethin.

I died before? I ...
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I died before? I got to the end of this video. Thanks anyway for posting.

lots of skipping in ...
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lots of skipping in this? video

It's? more like a ...
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It's? more like a really slow slideshow.

TGM - Martin Hall & Morgan Pressel
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On plane backstroke tip from 2008 PGA Teacher of the Year...Sorry fir the sound of silence

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Wired Tripod?
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Why Jack Nicklaus took the drill...if existed.

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@Karlipbaum Yeah,? ...
By: jeffy10028. on 13 Jun 11, 22:04:53
@Karlipbaum Yeah,? he used his body/pivot better than Hogan.

@Karlipbaum Show me ...
By: jeffy10028. on 13 Jun 11, 22:03:31
@Karlipbaum Show me one of those alleged "quotes". Just one of the "several" you mentioned. I'm calling BS. The only place I've sen that story is from the Jimmy Ballard crowd that, as we know, promotes? a moving head.

@Karlipbaum Anyhow ...
By: emncaity. on 20 Oct 10, 03:35:14
@Karlipbaum Anyhow... I agree with you that that is really a distinct action here, and I even remember reading Jack's own words about it somewhere--something to the effect that if he was going to replant it anywhere other than where it was at address, he'd much rather see it moving toward the target than away from it. You probably also know that he was adamant about a lateral move (Lead would say slightly to the _right_ of the target, since you're turned) before? any distinct clearing.

@Karlipbaum (ct'd) ...
By: emncaity. on 20 Oct 10, 03:32:13
@Karlipbaum (ct'd) ...which is relevant to your post simply because, as Jack has said from the outset of his career until now, the body shouldn't drag the club through impact, but rather should reach a point where energy is transferred up through the body and into the clubhead with a full and free release of the hands and forearms. To that end, a replanting of the? lead heel in the way you describe tends to retard the lower body's tendency to keep the club from dragging through impact.

@Karlipbaum Astute ...
By: emncaity. on 20 Oct 10, 03:28:00
@Karlipbaum Astute, interesting, relevant, and mentioned only in a couple of really obscure places known to? people ridiculously overfamiliar with the literature (speaking, thank you). In fact--and this is more than tangentially related--a lot of people look at most of Jack's career as a prime example of the "no-hands, all-body" swing, but in truth Jack always tried to release as hard and as fully as he could as soon as he moved to his left side (I'm sure you know this)... (ct'd)

@Karlipbaum Now ...
By: emncaity. on 19 Oct 10, 05:40:20
@Karlipbaum Now I'm sort of vaguely remembering something about Grout protesting that it was never meant to cause pain and never did, just so people? would know he wasn't out there abusing people's kids in the group lessons and such....

@Karlipbaum Didn't ...
By: emncaity. on 10 Oct 10, 23:46:45
@Karlipbaum Didn't Nicklaus say it was Grout's assistant (Larry Glosser, I think) who actually did that? Here in this interview you'll notice it's the narrator who names Grout, then there's a cut to Nicklaus saying "he," but Nicklaus himself would not have known how this film was edited. Now that you? mention it, I'm thinking Nicklaus may have been sloppy about saying it was actually Grout in some interview or article at some time, but I'm not positive.

Where do you find ...
By: dale47. on 30 Jan 09, 07:31:26
Where do you find thim? KOC !! Thank You.

Hogan Left Arm
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Sometimes below sholder plane; sometimes just on shoulder plane or sometimes a lil' bit above...

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During the ...
By: TheGolfSage. on 05 Mar 12, 20:09:42
During the backswing, Ben's left knee pops out away from his body, instead of working back toward his right knee. This affects perfect balance at the top of the backswing, as your weight is likely transferred to the right heel and outside of the right foot instead of to the inside of the right foot. Perfect balance is a key factor in the player's ability to smoothly and quickly? start the downswing back to the left side with a hard leg drive, thereby delivering maximum power at impact.--GS.

Actually, it is not ...
By: premolar7. on 02 Mar 12, 02:59:36
Actually, it is not almost all great players lower in the Downswing. The truth is ever great player in history has lower in the downswing. So you are right on? with this statement my friend.

Seems to me that ...
By: donmcd71. on 06 Jan 12, 16:40:36
Seems to me that the second clip is simply not? a full a swing so it appears under the plane from behind.

Hey , Tele. I'm a ...
By: Adam54545454. on 03 Jan 12, 04:04:49
Hey , Tele. I'm a huge fan of Hogan and have Five Lessons sitting right beside me. Your comment confused me a little bit, you didn't mean that he uses the same plane up and down did you? Because Hogan himself specifically says that the down plane is far shallower due to? the hips rotating.

Hogan today would ...
By: lonestargun. on 06 Jun 11, 14:11:12
Hogan today would not had a swing coach, Unlike Tiger? and Phil. I mean Tiger is trying to change his swing again? Hogan only used one swing...HIS

Let's? all focus on ...
By: bunkerputt. on 19 Jan 11, 20:08:41
Let's? all focus on shoulder plane instead of how to hit with lag, because amateurs have obviously mastered that part.

Shoulder-schmoulder ...
By: telescope3. on 17 Dec 10, 16:25:30
Shoulder-schmoulder. Notice that the shaft of Hogan's club is PERFECTLY on plane both halfway back AND halfway down. This is done largely by losing height a bit on both the back-and-downswings. Check the top of Hogans head; approx. -2" each way! Tigers' called out all the time for this, but the fact is, almost ALL the great players do this, as it partially counters the shafts 'climb-up' as it travels from? it's address plane up to around shoulder-level during the backswing.

...then on top of ...
By: emncaity. on 10 Oct 10, 23:40:11
...then on top of that, let the rough grow and make it mean something to hit a fairway, and we'll see how that "these guys are good" campaign goes. There'll be about 50 guys who can break par, and that'll be it. When the U.S. Open was played at Torrey, both Tiger and Rocco were barely over 50% on fairways hit--AT THE U.S. OPEN--and tied for first. Fifty years ago with the rough like it was, you hit 50%, you're gonna shoot 85, I don't care? what your name is.

True--esp. if you ...
By: emncaity. on 10 Oct 10, 23:38:06
True--esp. if you make everybody play musclebacks or straight blades and play the same ball today, Hogan--especially the 41-year-old Hogan--is gonna kill 'em. Lots of people know how he disparaged putting in his last few years, but in fact--as Snead says, and Snead would know--he was? one of the best putters in the world from 10 feet in when he was at his peak. That's the thing that separates Woods from the pack when he's winning.

Why,? thank ...
By: emncaity. on 10 Oct 10, 23:36:22
Why,? thank yuhverramussh.

Best? answer
By: elnocho3. on 09 Sep 10, 20:49:15
Best? answer

And the point is? ...
By: Muddo14. on 02 Sep 10, 08:27:51
And the point is? If you watch Mr Hogan avidly there is one certainty,,,,,, repetition. You can split hairs on this but he was machine repetitive. Hence his? record. If he were alive and young today he'd kick their arses. Of that there is no doubt.

all 3 of these ...
By: philebbesen. on 30 Jul 10, 14:45:17
all 3 of these films are shot at different positions? thus giving the illusion that theres a difference.

You can't say ...
By: emncaity. on 10 Jun 10, 19:41:49
You can't say anything about Hogan, 1P, etc., without somebody getting bent out of shape, but? the vagaries of lining up the camera aside, it's true that Hogan was sometimes on the shoulder plane, sometimes above, sometimes below. We're talking about slight variations, mostly related to length of swing. On the very short swings, he was slightly below; on his longest swings, he was slightly above, if (and this is critical) you go from the shoulder socket to the middle of the butt of the club.

The line should be ...
By: zedomax. on 27 Oct 09, 20:44:09
The line should be drawn from his? neck to the ball, the shoulder plane isn't the plane he referred to in his book.

KOC, you can draw ...
By: tongzilla. on 27 Jan 09, 09:55:00
KOC, you can draw better lines than that. And even if you did draw perfect lines, hard to? see the shoulder plane relationship with the left shoulder as some swings are taken from the outside...parallax.

Swing within a barrel?
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Hogan might need a bigger barrel

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LAMAO maybe it's ...
By: ynot1688. on 30 Sep 11, 02:47:28
LAMAO maybe it's variation? of the size the barrel

i dont, because god ...
By: zaphod2. on 29 Sep 11, 18:18:56
i dont, because god wants? me to make use of my intellect.

you should? =)
By: onenonlyan. on 23 Sep 11, 14:26:04
you should? =)

Now? its been two ...
By: cjcollas. on 11 Aug 11, 08:21:25
Now? its been two years since you've posted that comment and I want to ask do you still think Clemshaw is the best instruction on youtube or do you think it would Sevam's move. They both seem to make sense.

the? outer ...
By: Fatshead. on 28 Jun 11, 18:43:31
the? outer perimeters of the barrel are the outside edges of your feet. he's well within them!

you have the barrel ...
By: silowhore. on 29 May 11, 19:11:39
you have the barrel at the wrong angle, get a tripod shot behind him ? and put the barrel up i bet he doesn't move out of it

so much lag in? ...
By: trinity5227. on 19 May 11, 20:58:48
so much lag in? that position at :23 . wish i had that

I don't think he ...
By: billygolfs50. on 01 Feb 11, 23:16:27
I don't think he created it. If you watch Snead, Demmart, Nelson, even Bobby Jones. They all had components of SnT they all tried to keep the shoulder center on the ball and got power from the hip center moving with the back swing. They could never figure out how snead could turn his shoulders 120 degree's It was becuse he let his rt leg straighten. his hip center moved and it allowed a massive turn. Hogan did it. The shoulders control where the arms swing down to ground. Why? move

@throwbackify good ...
By: billygolfs50. on 01 Feb 11, 23:11:21
@throwbackify good point? need shoulder tilt if your sitting too much shoulders get too level. Major cause of over the top.

Hogan wrote a 13 ...
By: billygolfs50. on 01 Feb 11, 23:09:44
Hogan wrote a 13 page letter to Pat Mahoney head pro at Pasatiempo in 1948 the year before his accident., I have a copy. He never wanted to move off the ball with his head. Only Hip center. Not Shoulder Center. He wanted rt leg to straighten. Left side to sag in. It looked like a rev pivot. But like the snt there is nothing rev about it. Hogan never finished on rt side nor do the snt swings on tour. Same stuff Snead did, Nicklaus, MIller, Palmer. Now Tigers? doing it. Look up his letter.

Want to see the ...
By: Golfzoner. on 11 Jan 11, 10:48:39
Want to see the best evaluation on Hogan without doubt; check out biokinetical golf. The bloke is a genius?

WHy don't you try ...
By: secrettogolf. on 03 Nov 10, 18:43:55
WHy don't you try drawing something that actaully looks like a barrel? not a round kitchen basket

totally wrong. ...
By: sandwah9. on 25 Apr 10, 19:42:33
totally wrong. hogan did not reverse pivot like the stack and tilt. hogan moved his center/core slightly to the right to start his swing, then aggressively to the lft through to the finish. his hips turned and moved towards the target before his backswing was completed, BUT, his upper body and shoulders were behind the ball at the top of the swing. so no reverse pivot and no stack and tilt. the main thing that everyone misses about hogan is how the core moves and slings? the arms.

I agree that Hogan ...
By: ml94698282. on 12 Dec 09, 07:32:58
I agree that Hogan was the? creator of stack and tilt because he advocated on his book that the weight of left feet should not shift to the right (all the time) for 7 irons downwards. Mike

I agree Hogan is ...
By: ml94698282. on 12 Dec 09, 07:29:04
I agree Hogan is the creator of stack and tilt because he advocated that the weight of left ft do not shift? to the right for 7 iron downwards.Therefore it is also reversed pivot too. Mike

Too? bad Hogan ...
By: secrettogolf. on 03 Jun 09, 22:17:45
Too? bad Hogan slides to his left side during his back swing.He is the creator of Stack and Tilt.

I think the concept ...
By: JackCrosley. on 18 Apr 09, 18:13:16
I think the concept of the Barrel still applies. What youve outlined here is a cylinder and not a barrel. There has to be a bit? of room for weight transfer, but I know what youre saying.

exactly,slide? ...
By: rw5791. on 16 Apr 09, 00:00:01
exactly,slide? first and then rotate.The barrel applies mainly to the backswing.There should be no sliding on the backswing,just a good tight coil.

The barrel is meant ...
By: samimalmstrom. on 28 Mar 09, 20:50:47
The barrel is meant to serve as a visual aid for your lower body to rotate; as can clearly be seen? his hips rotate AT impact, not from the top of the backswing. Dont start the downswing by rotating the hips, instead slide them slightly until weight has been transferred then rotate the hips. Look up clemshaw on youtube, best instruction about the subject of weight shift and body rotation.

LOL,? maybe a ...
By: ynot1688. on 27 Mar 09, 07:35:08
LOL,? maybe a bigger barrel

you cant take the? ...
By: zaphod2. on 26 Jan 09, 19:12:17
you cant take the? bible word by word either !

The Golfing Machine...Matt Killen and ....J B Holmes
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Is that a Punch Elbow? No Good? Anyway, I wish I could hit that 300 yards with a 3 wood!

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Matt Killen is ...
By: Bibich212. on 06 Jun 11, 07:29:23
Matt Killen is painful. Its not? with hands? Your kidding!

Matt Killen? is ...
By: Bibich212. on 06 Jun 11, 07:28:55
Matt Killen? is painful

There is no way in ...
By: MrLuigiFercotti. on 02 Jun 11, 17:50:14
There is no way in the world he is not hitting. He is one strong dude with some serious hand speed as well. Most hacks who swing like this can't? hit the ball anywhere.

his exceptional hip ...
By: steckleinjr. on 22 Nov 10, 19:55:41
his exceptional hip/hand speed is worth noting. ? natural phenomena

So it's like the ...
By: secrettogolf. on 14 Dec 09, 00:52:58
So it's like the shoulder and arm being pushed in The Golfing Machines Hitters concept.I have tried both swinging and hitting and always found hitting was more consostent for me.Since I rely on both there rear shoulder and my rotation.just? never heard called a punch. Thanks

Punch elbow means ...
By: 2longtongue. on 12 Dec 09, 22:47:55
Punch elbow means the right elbow is to the side of the hip pitch elbow is more in front of the belly. Punch elbow works well for hitters and leads to an earlier release of the angles than pitch. In a pure swinging action pitch elbow leads to a later snap release ala Garcia and Hogan. Holmes is a big powerful lump and I am pretty sure is a hitter not swinger with his right arm straightening by tricep power rather than inertly thrown out? by the pivot.With that action Punch elbow works better.

Thats? good.This is ...
By: secrettogolf. on 16 Oct 09, 23:22:10
Thats? good.This is Homer Kelly's swingers move.Much easier to clear the hips when the shoulders are controling the handle.Also with his backswing ,especially the right shoulder gives him a huge arc.He should be a better player with such a short controlled swing..?...

What is a punch ...
By: secrettogolf. on 07 Aug 09, 21:14:06
What is a punch elbow and? why is not good?

a lot like the ...
By: lakotal. on 11 Jul 09, 17:46:57
a lot like the swing in Joe Dante's 4 Magic Moves book from the 50's. maintain those flying wedges by letting the pivot wallop the ball.....?

shame he can't get ...
By: stylsie. on 25 Jan 09, 20:10:25
shame he can't get inside 10? yards with a wedge eh?!

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What did Homer Kelly really mean regarding Hinging?

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He meant not to hit ...
By: dschultz6072. on 26 Jan 12, 20:29:15
He meant not to hit the ball off the? heel.

1? fps?
By: rctlover1. on 07 May 11, 14:01:02
1? fps?

fuck, I? almost ...
By: sniffy45. on 15 Dec 10, 20:26:56
fuck, I? almost fell asleep

The interesting ...
By: secretogolf. on 25 Oct 10, 04:23:49
The interesting part regarding TGM and the various hinging actions is that with a good neutral grip they? are achieved by making various swings which are suppose to have the effect of those hinging actions.Confusing huh?If you finish high,low,mid level depending on the desired shot you will find your hands wind up in the hinged positions mentioned by TGM instructors.Example if you hit a high shot by finishing high in the follow through you will find you end up with a reverse roll.

You meant? "stop ...
By: filiptc. on 18 Sep 10, 12:16:14
You meant? "stop frame"...

Was that Angled ...
By: BenJogan. on 18 Sep 10, 09:39:54
Was that Angled Hinging? The horizontal center line remained so steel through impact... if? that's made with iron byron it is surely Horizontal Hinging.

lol ?
By: SpeedyGolfCart77. on 06 Aug 10, 01:27:52
lol ?

I think your ...
By: dreamburn1. on 01 Jul 10, 17:45:24
I think your definition of? slow motion and mine differ.

Fascinating ...
By: golfogac. on 17 May 10, 18:57:36
Fascinating question about hinge action, KOC. It appears, from this video, that ball-clubface separation occurs earlier than? I imagined; well before the swing low-point. I wonder what I'm really doing with full/half/reverse roll feel of horizontal, angled and vertical hinging.

great video. was ...
By: 77bovi. on 03 Mar 09, 14:48:41
great video. was this done with? iron byron? what you said about roll , i wish i knew when i started golf. would have saved me alot of time and frustration. i think the word ROLL should be banned from being used with regard to the hands or squaring the clubface. i think the better word is revolve. like a revolving door. though orbit is great too :) love your vids, keep them coming. btw what did Homer say about hinging?

"Roll" is actually ...
By: KOC. on 20 Jan 09, 09:04:52
"Roll" is actually imparted by the? turning torso and/or the orbiting Arms and NOT an actual "Roll" of the Hands.

Cool. The clubface ...
By: cmartingolf. on 20 Jan 09, 06:23:07
Cool. The clubface isn't doing a whole? lot! Not much rotation.

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Hogan backing out?
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Hogan lost a little bit balance in this clip,but we can still see Hogan's right foot was sliding through the impact zone, definately weight shift there...

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Re practicing for ...
By: emncaity. on 30 Aug 10, 07:03:51
Re practicing for the first time in five years, even he admitted that was true. By the late '70s he had started to get really imprecise with contact and was overemphasizing some of his signature moves in a detrimental way. As he described it, the basis for the '79-'80 changes was the fact that his arm swing had gotten too disconnected from his body and was high, but no longer "deep," which led to a lot of steepness, glancing contact, and force dissipated into the? ground.

Re Nicklaus v. ...
By: emncaity. on 30 Aug 10, 07:00:47
Re Nicklaus v. Hogan or Faldo, of course you're? right; Nicklaus was never a swing perfectionist like that, and in fact he thought that overpracticing actually made him stale and made his swing worse. (He also abhorred seeing his swing on film--he thought it tended to make a player self-conscious and also tended to make players start playing "perfect swing" instead of "lowest score." A lot of people should take note of that, I think.)

So when he won the ...
By: emncaity. on 30 Aug 10, 06:57:34
So when he won the Masters in '86, it was with an action more similar to '75 than '80. Where he'd been trying to increase the activeness of his hand release (because he'd been hanging on and not releasing) in '79-'80, by '86 he was? trying to get that feeling of "passive" hands again (they're never _really_ passive, but they feel that way when they're in the right balance with the rest of the action).

There are several ...
By: emncaity. on 30 Aug 10, 06:55:23
There are several Golf Mag and/or? Golf Digest articles from around that time that detail the changes, not to mention his book The Full Swing in Photos. Re '75 v. '86, that's a different animal there. Somewhere around '84-'85, he began to feel that he was overdoing the '79-'80 changes by becoming too handsy, so he went back to a wider arm swing and more body-oriented action--or what to him felt more like the right balance between body, hands, and arms--with Grout's assistance.

I'm going on what ...
By: emncaity. on 30 Aug 10, 06:50:22
I'm going on what Nicklaus himself has? said and written in multiple places that he consciously revamped his swing in several important respects: standing taller at address, getting a bit more centered on the ball (rather than radically behind it), making the backswing a bit more rotational (arms folding earlier at the elbows), all of which were intended to make a shallower approach through the ball on an inside path and a full release without dragging the club through.

what changes did ...
By: earthshine2k. on 30 Aug 10, 02:20:39
what changes did Nicklaus make in? the '79 off season other than go back to review the fundamentals with Jack Grout and actually practice for the first time in about 5 years? If you look at his approach shot into the 15th green at Augusta during the final rd of the '75 Masters and his approach shot into 15 in the final rd in '86, it's the exact same swing, from the exact same spot, with the exact same result. He tweaked some things later w/ Jim Flick, but not like Hogan or Faldo

this is before he ...
By: 2340132. on 02 Jul 10, 06:45:41
this is before he changed his swing to that power? fade

Can you clarify ...
By: psg8802. on 21 Jun 10, 13:17:19
Can you clarify what you? mean by "backing out" and elaborate on the significance of his rear foot slide during the impact zone? Thanks.

Yeah, he did this ...
By: emncaity. on 10 Jun 10, 19:36:30
Yeah, he did this when he was younger. What'd be really interesting is a meta-analysis of the midcareer changes made by several prominent players, some of the all-time greats and some just very good--Hogan, Nicklaus ('79-'80), Faldo, Price, O'Meara, et al. I'm actually making notes for a? book project. Strong similarities include an emphasis on plane, a more unified action (NOT "taking the hands out of the swing, as so commonly misstated), and controlling an out-of-control backswing.

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Tiger Woods Swing Secret?
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Tiger learnt his golf swing from his dad and his dad learnt golf from...

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If the 'secret' is ...
By: jpsartrean. on 22 May 11, 19:22:46
If the 'secret' is how? to miss the fairway, I think I've already got it... :-(

? well, as he ...
By: earthshine2k. on 31 Aug 10, 22:48:22
? well, as he stood on the 72nd tee of the '06 Open, I thought Phil had finally exorcised the demons. Funny how that tee shot on 18 destroyed the cocoon of confidence he'd been enveloped in since the '04 Masters. After he putted out for a championship losing double, it was back to the same 'sheepish', apologetic approach to majors until this year at Augusta.

.....he knew he ...
By: earthshine2k. on 31 Aug 10, 22:43:28
.....he knew he had? a once in a lifetime chance and he went for it. came up short, but he certainly didn't implode while trying to focus on his routine.

yeah, i'm not a big ...
By: earthshine2k. on 31 Aug 10, 22:41:01
yeah, i'm not a big fan of the 'focus on the process, not the result - it's just another round of golf' mentality that's so en vogue these days. I think Dustin Johnson succumbed to that and so did Nick Watney. I think you have to embrace championship opportunities and feed off of them. Nicklaus certainly did. ? Woods does. Why try to fool yourself. I think Rocco had the right approach...

i'm a 'Tiger guy' ( ...
By: earthshine2k. on 31 Aug 10, 22:35:01
i'm a 'Tiger guy' (the off course bs is another conversation) precisely because of what you've described. For the same reason, I'm a Nicklaus guy. I'm not a front runner, but, I have a tremendous appreciation for preparation, athletic intelligence, and an? innate ability to execute under pressure. I think there is something to be said for the athlete who, even though he's favored, can still make it happen. The 'underdog' has it easy. ie Rocco and the 'nothing to lose' '08 Open.

Re taking care of ...
By: emncaity. on 31 Aug 10, 03:46:04
Re taking care of technical flaws before they kill you: That's one of the things I admire about TW's game, even while finding him disgusting? as a person. He really does work his ass off, and despite critics, I think it's usually on the right things. Right now, though, he's getting back into that huge down-move with his head and upper body that make him wild when he really goes after a shot, and it's gonna be really hard for him to play well for four straight rounds with that.

You're right; ...
By: emncaity. on 31 Aug 10, 03:44:03
You're right; Norman's lapses were consistent. In his case, these were manifested in a technical flaw that he just never bothered to fix--which is just another way of not being _quite_ at the level of a Hogan or Nicklaus, whom you could not IMAGINE doing such a thing ("eh, I'll just leave that alone and maybe it won't come up"). And btw, that's not the same thing as saying the lapses were CAUSED by the technical? flaw. More like the other way around.

...and, it does ...
By: emncaity. on 31 Aug 10, 03:38:56
...and, it does seem like that's kind of a defense mechanism? sometimes. You can always say you lost while trying to hit that 40-yard cut with a 3-wood around the trees and over the lake "because I was trying to win the tournament, dammit"--when a smarter play would result in an 80% chance of a tie and an 18% chance of a win, with only a 2% chance of a loss. Or whatever. Even Tiger could use a little more of that Jackish mentality at times, but mostly he's got it.

"Chronic habitual ...
By: emncaity. on 31 Aug 10, 03:36:31
"Chronic habitual failure is rooted in something far deeper than swing flaws and bad breaks. ? Some guys can handle the pressure, others can't.." True, but the reasons for not handling it differ. I do think, though, that the problem is really similar with Mickelson and Norman. They have sort of a second track running in the background all the time, the need to project some kind of "bold player" image, rather than having winning as literally the only purpose....?

Also, re the Rocco ...
By: emncaity. on 31 Aug 10, 03:30:56
Also, re the Rocco mentality: That may have helped? him become as good as he could be, and he's rich because of it, and has had a good life with a lot of travel and a lot of fun. I just think guys like Nicklaus and Woods have all that--fun, good times, etc.--but still play with some kind of real urgency that seems lacking in literally almost everybody almost all the time these days, other than Woods.

So right re Love, ...
By: emncaity. on 31 Aug 10, 03:27:10
So right re Love, Couples, and Duval, and the effect of money and comfort. Also: Love's dad was a crack teacher, as you know, but I wonder whether teaching? a lot of amateurs tends to give you the sports psychologist mentality of a guy like Rotella--again, a likeable guy who has some good ideas, but much of his material seems geared toward the Rocco kind of mentality--happy to be there, win once in a while when it's your turn, etc....

Also, re '96 ...
By: emncaity. on 31 Aug 10, 03:23:59
Also, re '96 Masters (Faldo and Norman): I agree Norman blew it, but I'm telling you, going into that final round I was apoplectic about how reporters were talking. A six-shot lead really is not insurmountable, not even close, especially in a major. You can shoot 74 hitting it about like you do when you shoot 69, and another guy--especially a guy like Faldo--can? shoot 67 and pass you. Having said that...a smarter way of playing would've sealed it for Norman.

(re Mickelson, ct'd ...
By: emncaity. on 31 Aug 10, 03:20:05
(re Mickelson, ct'd:) Players like Nicklaus and Hogan have a different sensibility--intelligence and discipline, brutal self-realism in the middle of? a confident streak that makes you feel literally all-powerful, the right balance between boldness and control. I mean, when you think about a guy with the natural talent of Mickelson coupled with that kind of mentality, it's staggering. Maybe that's why God prevented it, or something.

Re Mickelson--yup, ...
By: emncaity. on 31 Aug 10, 03:18:33
Re Mickelson--yup, that's it. I love the guy, he has crazy talent, love to go hang out and have dinner and all that,? but he really is infuriating because--and I think Norman had a bit of this--it's self-sabotage, knowing you can always say "but I did the bold thing, etc.," hoping people will get behind you. ...

anytime. great ...
By: earthshine2k. on 31 Aug 10, 03:05:26
anytime. great conversation. enjoyed it. Chronic habitual failure is rooted in something far deeper than swing flaws and bad breaks. Some guys can handle the? pressure, others can't. That's life, i guess. See you on another post sometime. Hit 'em straight.

Anyhow, I'll quit. ...
By: emncaity. on 31 Aug 10, 03:01:03
Anyhow, I'll quit. Sorry. You got me rolling. I think I agree with almost everything you say other than the notion that failure equals a lack of fortitude. Sometimes it really? is a technical problem or a problem of being smart about what you're doing. And sometimes it's just a physical reaction to unfamiliarity, which you overcome by continuing to put yourself in that position again and again (as Watson did in becoming #1).

i make a living ...
By: earthshine2k. on 31 Aug 10, 03:00:51
i make a living pushing paper I teach golf, part time ? Love III and Couples are light years ahead of those guys in the talent dept., but their career records don't attest to their talent levels. You could say the same thing about David Duval. To me the difference between the 1B's of the past 20 years and the 1B's of the Nicklaus era is money; plain and simple. The all exempt Tour and the huge purses make guys play to keep their cards not to be great champions It's a shame, really

I don't wonder why ...
By: emncaity. on 31 Aug 10, 03:00:11
I don't wonder why he? has such obvious contempt for other players. He shouldn't show it, just like he shouldn't curse in front of millions of kids; his behavior is a problem; but competitively, I can see why a guy who sees people fall down every time he says "boo" would be a little contemptuous.

And the guy who ...
By: emncaity. on 31 Aug 10, 02:58:21
And the guy who beat him hit? barely over 50% of fairways IN THE OPEN--and it's not like he burned it up in the final round OR the playoff. Different era, different standards, at times propped up by the Tour's need for hype of these allegedly superhuman guys. I actually wonder if he gets bored and would enjoy less domination and a better fight sometimes...

Talent and ...
By: emncaity. on 31 Aug 10, 02:57:33
Talent and instruction, yes. Ridiculous advantages in conditioning and equipment, absolutely. But hit-you-in-the-teeth toughness? Not so much. Think about how happy ol' jolly Rocco was to be there at Torrey in the Open playoff, and how jolly he was afterward--when a bold shot to the 72nd might've ended in a birdie, and when a hacking bogey in sudden? death (enabled by his insistence on the same tee shot with the same club that had failed before) allowed a routine par to win.

So maybe I ...
By: emncaity. on 31 Aug 10, 02:55:17
So maybe I should've gone back farther, since I'm really talking about the kind of player? who didn't have Dad's insurance business or a corporate golf job to go to if they failed. I'm talking about guys who had the killer instinct because if they failed, they'd have to go back and pump gas or flip burgers, and be happy to have even that job. Tiger's the only guy out there who plays every week with the urgency of a guy who's gonna have to sell sweaters if he doesn't make it.

Re Jones, Campbell, ...
By: emncaity. on 31 Aug 10, 02:52:50
Re Jones, Campbell, Micheel, and Brooks--I get the point, but even here you imply that Couples and Love are well above that class of player. (I'm not dissing; if you're making a living playing golf, you're good.) I agree they've been underachivers and should've found out a long time ago what was keeping them from moving up the list of all-time greats. But he still had Faldo and Price. I don't see Anthony Kim or Dustin Johnston at that level, but? maybe I'm wrong.

well, i certainly ...
By: earthshine2k. on 31 Aug 10, 02:43:03
well, i certainly don't play competitively at that level. But, I don't know how else to describe his short comings in the biggest events. Technically, he did possess a fatal swing? flaw that reared it's ugly head at the '84 US Open and the '86 Masters, each time on the 72nd hole. Whatever you want to call it, the guy just flat didn't get it done. Great guy, super talent, just lacks the championship resume' in my view.

i'd say that's a ...
By: earthshine2k. on 31 Aug 10, 02:36:59
i'd say that's a pretty good comparison (major results not withstanding). It seems Mickelson, as with Norman before him, just goes out and plays, and if it's good enough to win, great, but if not, then, aw shucks, that's golf and I relish the opportunity to give it another try next year. I just don't see a passion to be great. I think Norman wanted to be great,? and maybe that pressure manifested itself in majors. his place in history sure could've been a lot different.

Ben Hogan - The Caddy (1953)
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